Andreas & Il Duomo

[TedByrne]

As you can see Andreas Manessinger works with a tripod. Which of course is cheating when you're doing a competitive shoot. Um, or it should be, right? I mean, it's hard to hand-hold a steady camera before sunup. Particularly in those last glimmering moments as night becomes day.

[wes]

Great shots of Andreas. The lighting and colors are wonderful. Did you do PP on the top one? Whatever, I like the effects on the buildings.

Wes

[tonebytone]

Two fine shots, Ted. Looks like Andreas did let go of 2 of his 3 tripod legs when you caught him in the first image - but looks also like you sort of let go of gravity! Now, that's a rather gave subject, methinks. Which of you fell down first?

To make the 2nd image, looks like you just stood there and shot from your usual eye level. Gee, Ted, Craig exhorts us to get down on the level of our subject, esp when the subject is a critter - and Andreas is a human critter, don't you think? Or are your knees forbidding of that particular posture?

Joking aside, I really do like both of these. And I visited your blog to read the stories around your images of Florence, too. Strange that the Italians would name a city after me, tho!

[RickT]

No wonder so many of Andreas' shots are canted, if he's frequently setting up on steps! It's nice to see him at work. You got amazingly good colors for such a dark time of day. Thanks for you two giving a different perspective to the normal travel shots.

[TedByrne]

Originally Posted by wes

Great shots of Andreas. The lighting and colors are wonderful. Did you do PP on the top one? Whatever, I like the effects on the buildings.

Wes

They are both heavily enhanced Wes. It is my curse.

Originally Posted by tonebytone;31274 (1) Two fine shots, Ted. Looks like Andreas did let go of 2 of his 3 tripod legs when you caught him in the first image - but looks also like you sort of let go of gravity! Now, that's a rather gave subject, methinks. Which of you fell down first? [img

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(2) To make the 2nd image, looks like you just stood there and shot from your usual eye level. Gee, Ted, Craig exhorts us to get down on the level of our subject, esp when the subject is a critter - and Andreas is a human critter, don't you think? Or are your knees forbidding of that particular posture?

(3) Joking aside, I really do like both of these. And I visited your blog to read the stories around your images of Florence, too. Strange that the Italians would name a city after me, tho!

Thanks Flo, taking your comments in parts:

1. As those who are familiar with Andreas' work know intimately, the guy is the master of the quirky angle. It is a horribly addictive thing. I started to also investigate perpendicular angles in my shoots and quickly discovered that it was hard to stop. I try to do it judiciously, but couldn't avoid treating Andreas to his own take on gravity.

2. Craig is the master. However to know the rules is to allow you to break them, right? And in many cases I find that the composition can be enhanced by a downward angle. See how I got the light to wriggle along a stream with Andreas in its middle? And see how this angle was able to allow me a DOF re. the background without cutting off the buildings witha black bar of sky at the top? Which is why I cunnningly chose to bend Professor Tanner's commandments. I trust he'll forgive it?

3. I returned from Italy with about 55 gigs of raw images which I am opening chronolgically to relive the trip from Pompeii to Sienna with long stays in Rome and your title town Florence. Irksome though, they seem not have posted your picture. Why izzat? Anybody know?

Originally Posted by RickT

No wonder so many of Andreas' shots are canted, if he's frequently setting up on steps! It's nice to see him at work. You got amazingly good colors for such a dark time of day. Thanks for you two giving a different perspective to the normal travel shots.

Right... Perspective... Great word. Thanks Rick

[advman]

Yes, perspective! Thanks, Rick, it is the right word at the right time. Putting things in perspective, that's what we must do.

All this talk about deliberate tilts, gravity and quirky angles, sheezzz, how exaggerated and righteously wrong is that?

Let's for instance take this image of Ted's. I mean, we all know him as a man with both feet on the ground, and in fact that's what he has, but it is the ground that has gone askew!



That's Europe, folks! All the ups and downs, it's for a reason that they call it the Old World

Glorious work, Ted. I really like it

Andreas

[TedByrne]

Hmmm.... I think I shall have a talk with my tailor. Y'know, someone actually told me NOT to wear jeans to Italy. And I believed him. The guy said they'd make me stand out as the ugly American. Hmmm... No, in retrospect, I seem to be standing, um... "back"... as one. Nice feet though Andreas. Yeah... you did a great job on the feet.

BTW - I hope everyone will notice which photog seeks inspiration from above... heh heh heh...

[advman]

Oh, as far as I remember, it was not inspiration that you searched, it was enlightenment

[tonebytone]

Andreas - Great shot of Ted's feet! ;-) I won't comment on anything further up, tho, since he seems so sensitive about it. But, ya know, on 2nd thought, I really do like the way the light reflects off the folds of cloth

Ted, didja get your finger tips in that shot you were taking? If you don't know what I'm referring to, just take a look at what your left hand was doing when Andreas snapped the shutter ;-)

I must confess that I notice stuff like that, as sometimes when I shade the lens with my hand, some part of its anatomy spoils the image. :-(

[TedByrne]

further up, tho, since he seems so sensitive about it. But, ya know, on 2nd thought, I really do like the way the light reflects off the folds of cloth

NOTE: As you can plainly see, I store my ruler down the back of my pants, a trick I learned from the distinguished "Ruler-When-You_Need-It" Photographic Workshops. You need a ruler to confirm the dimensions of the image you are taking? Hey, I will whip one out faster than nine out of ten picture takers. That way I know way before anyone else whether the image will be best taken as say, an 8X10, 16X20 or perhaps a 80X100. Slick, eh? And of course, distinctly non-geeky. It is a method though which can be, um, startling , if you forgetfully sit down quickly

Ted, didja get your finger tips in that shot you were taking? If you don't know what I'm referring to, just take a look at what your left hand was doing when Andreas snapped the shutter ;-)

I must confess that I notice stuff like that, as sometimes when I shade the lens with my hand, some part of its anatomy spoils the image. :-(


Actually I have a rotary polarizing filter on my lens. At sunup the effects of the filter are dramatic but you will notice I am taking a vertical shot which necessitated a shift from the previous horizontal image. With a lens shade on the Canon, there's no alternative but to diddle with the thingee as you compose. [/quote]